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 Post subject: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:58 am 
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Have just returned from snagging (Penthouses) and noticed that the bathrooms do not have extractor fans. As they are windowless as well, they'll soon turn rather mouldy!!! Has anyone had extractor's fitted or know of any solution to the problem?

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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:59 pm 
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hi cherrie
the bathrooms have what is called "positive stack ventilation" which means that there is a vent in the bathroom which
leads up to the roof vent stack.the air movement outside draws out the moisture a bit like a chimney draws a fire.they do not work as good as an extractor fan but it will be difficult to get power to it for a fan.we have an appartment on naranjos jardin 7. ours is an end one and has a window in the bathroom although my wife discovered that if its open while using the loo then the folks on the next door solarium get a good view!
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tony and ann


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:13 pm 
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Hi,
I have spoken to various people upon my return from visiting my apt in Jardines, I have been given instructions on how to fit an extractor fan and will be doing so in Dec when I next visit.
I will keep you informed on the outcome.
Dave.


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:38 pm 
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Thanks to you all for the info. "Positive Stack Ventilation" better than nothing I suppose, though will be very interested to know how Dave's extractor works out.

Best Wishes

Cherrie


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:50 pm 
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Have just returned from Condado, when I was there I installed an extractor fan in my bathroom.
I have a 2 bed in Jardines and installation was not as difficult as I imagined, the only problem I encountered was because there is no switch wire, the timer on the extractor does not work meaning that it goes off when switched off instead of running for an extra minute or so.
It does make a difference, although, at this time of year when it is chilly outside and you have a nice hot shower there is quite a bit of condensation to contend with, but I am fairly happy with extraction and certainly better than without it.


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:29 pm 
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Thanks for letting us know. We hope to complete any day now!!

Happy Showering

Cherrie


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:50 pm 
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davell did you get the extractor over here or there, and could you give a brief description of what it takes, ok with diy, though never done this, or thought it needed doing, cheers ant


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:13 pm 
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We are back out to Condado at Easter and hope to fit air extraction. Can anyone tell me what is the diameter of the opening of the duct work so that i can purchase the correct size ? Many thanks

Terry & Fran Jardines 8


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:26 pm 
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We fitted an extractor fan last week it really does make such a difference. We have managed to get it switched so that it runs for about 8 minutes after the light is turned off which seems more than enough time. The existing method is really hopeless.
We got the fan in England, it is a standard size bathroom/cloakroom extractor and fitted it without a problem.


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:39 pm 
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Hi Arron ,
who makes it ? can it be bought online ?any ducting required? sounds really easy to experienced spark/diyer/hvac
guy is it.


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:05 pm 
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I fitted extractor in Dec in my 2 bed Jardines apt, and although it works fine, do not expect 100% extraction. I wired mine into light fitting and ran cable in roof void to desired position then fitted fan. Could not get mine to run on timer as there is no switch wire on bathroom wiring so I had to bypass timer and fan goes off and on same time as lights. Would be interested to know how Aaron got timer working.


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:00 pm 
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Hi,
To get the timer to work you need to take a permanent feed from the switch, easily wired in single cable through the existing conduits buried in the walls, any 4 inch timer fan will do but you need the permanent live to make the timer run.
I am next at Polaris on 16th Jan so if you need to take a look feel free to get in touch.


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:10 pm 
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Cheers guys maybe catch up in the new year all the best in 09 many thanks :)


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:54 pm 
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Thanks for the info Aaron, will have a crack in March when we are over.
Was it tricky to feed the cable from the switch to the fan hole.

Best regards

Ray


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:12 pm 
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Hi Ray
In our apartment above the switch is a draw-in box linking the switch & light point,
we disconnected the wire joined on the additional wire & pulled it through,
pull the new wire through a couple of feet longer than the original wire, tape the original wire back onto the new one and pull back to its original position.
You then have your new cable between the light point and switch which you need to connect into the live side of the switch.
At the light point you then have your live cable, switched live cable & neutral,
run a 3 core flex from the light to the fan no earth is needed.

Hope this helps
Bob


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:43 pm 
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Cheers Bob

Sounds pretty straightforward.

Going to use this one i think.

http://gil-lec.co.uk/products/Air+Treatment/Domestic+Extraction/GET/Extractor+Fan+100mm+12V/515000412

Looks cheap and should do the job

Best Regards

Ray


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:48 pm 
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Hi Ray
Does not look as if that one is a timer model, which you need to run on after the light is switched of.

Bob


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:04 pm 
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oops
will look again later, had a few wines last night

Ray


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:15 pm 
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Hi bob
Not had as much wine tonight.
Does this one look suitable mate.

http://gil-lec.co.uk/products/Air+Treatment/Domestic+Extraction/GET/Extractor+Fan+%2B+Timer+100mm+12V/574107060

cheers

Ray


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:27 am 
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We would be interested in knowing how noisy these fans are. Fully agree the present system isnt really efficient. This may be because we are not used to this system and as we cant even crack a window open after the shower is used there seems to be a huge amount of condensation which in time will affect the ceiling,corners and grouting of the room. As we have relatives who have three daughters who seem to spend an inordinate amount of time in any bathroom they come across I forsee there being more water in the apartment than in the pool!!

However, we have extracter fans in the bathrooms at home. When switched on in the night they are clearly heard in adjacent bedrooms and then seem to run on for ages afterwards- which does disturb the sleep of people up there. I know we have two lights in the apartment bathroom and the way forward would be to recommend only using the one unattached to the fan during the night but I'm interested to know about the noise levels. At home one in particular is shockingly noisy and you'd think someone just switched on a cement mixer in the middle of the night!! We have stayed in hotels where you hear the adjoining bathroom fan go on in the dead of night. As you cant gaurentee people will use the right light switch I'd really like to know about the noise from someone who has one fitted as I dont think these apartments are well soundproofed either.


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:36 pm 
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Ray.
That extractor is fine.

Also in answer to the noise levels, they are noisey but not so bad, this is really only noticed at night when the apartment is quite. After the first night most people would remember not to turn the light on by that switch. It is far better to have the extractor as the system that is there is no good at all. Before we put the extractor in we had pools of water on the bathroom floor. This would be so much worse if you had 4 people using the bath/shower etc.
We have got ours set at about 6 minutes now. It was set at the full 10 minutes which was not needed.
We will probably change ours to maybe 4 minutes next time we are there.

Hope this answers your question.


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:47 pm 
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ps the noise is nothing like a cement mixer, more like someone turning on a hairdryer set at low level in an adjacent room.
hope it goes ok.


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:20 pm 
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Hi all,
i have fitted many extractor fans on condado,
i have a few selections to choose from.
including whispers and silent
pm me for more detail

regards
craig (extract)


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:17 pm 
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Jimjam wrote:
We would be interested in knowing how noisy these fans are. Fully agree the present system isnt really efficient. This may be because we are not used to this system and as we cant even crack a window open after the shower is used there seems to be a huge amount of condensation which in time will affect the ceiling,corners and grouting of the room. As we have relatives who have three daughters who seem to spend an inordinate amount of time in any bathroom they come across I forsee there being more water in the apartment than in the pool!!

However, we have extracter fans in the bathrooms at home. When switched on in the night they are clearly heard in adjacent bedrooms and then seem to run on for ages afterwards- which does disturb the sleep of people up there. I know we have two lights in the apartment bathroom and the way forward would be to recommend only using the one unattached to the fan during the night but I'm interested to know about the noise levels. At home one in particular is shockingly noisy and you'd think someone just switched on a cement mixer in the middle of the night!! We have stayed in hotels where you hear the adjoining bathroom fan go on in the dead of night. As you cant gaurentee people will use the right light switch I'd really like to know about the noise from someone who has one fitted as I dont think these apartments are well soundproofed either.


yes i actually experience this last time, its weird


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 Post subject: Re: extractor fans in bathrooms
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:51 pm 
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The noise levels of the extractor unit are very low, depending on 'who' you have to install it,so people are using the cheap ones, ive seen 2 fitted and they sound like helicopters, the ones i use are low noise, even with all doors open at night it is the slightest whisper not a drone my aircon unit make more noise!

i can take anyone to view/listen to my extractors before to prove low levels of noise.
craig


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